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Andreas Talian (Tallian) was born April 11, 1857 in Kukomezo, Svidnik District, Saris County, Presov Region, Slovakia according to baptism record and Maria, his wife, was born June of 1860 according to the 1900 US Census record. Talian (Tallian) is pronounced with two syllables, as I-talian without the I at the beginning. Andreas and Maria were originally from the area of Saris, Slovakia that was then part of the Austria/Hungarian Empire. Saris is an historic land in the northern part of Eastern Slovakia and named after Saris Castle. It is made up, essentially, of the district of Presov, Bardejov, Svidnik and Stropkov, with the first of these being the regional cultural and economic center. The language that they spoke was Slovak and their religion was Roman Catholic. Andreas came alone, before his wife and son, to America aboard the ship, SS Helvetia that left from the port of Antwerp, Belgium and sailed into the port of Boston, Massachusetts on May 1, 1882. Andreas is listed on the alien passenger list for the SS Helvetia, obtained from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, as Andreas TALN with his occupation given as "farmer". Andreas' wife, Maria, came later to America possibly in 1883 with their young son, Andrew Steve Talian. This immigration date for Maria was found on the 1910 US census record. Andrew Steve was born October 17, 1880 in Austria/Hungary according to United States Social Security records. The family most likely came to America to escape the ethnic cleansing or Magyarization, that was taking place in this area of the Austria/Hungarian Empire. Through research I found the following: The Hungarian authorities in their endeavor to suppress the Slovak nationality went to the extent of taking away Slovak children to be brought up as Magyars, and forbade them to learn their language and their history in school and church. Over two million Slovaks, who were predominantly Catholic, clung to their language and Slavic customs, but the clergy were educated in their seminaries through the medium of the Magyar tongue and required in their parishes to conform to state imposed restrictions. Even some Slovak family names were Magyarized, and any vocational advancement was only given through Hungarians channels. All these ethnic cleansing policies on the part of the authorities tended to produce an active Slovak emigration abroad while stifling economic factors exacerbated the situation. A few immigrants came to America in 1864 and their success brought others. In the late seventies the Slovak exodus was well marked, and by 1882 it was sufficiently important to be investigated by the Hungarian Minister of the Interior and directions given to repress it. The American immigration figures indicated the first important Slovak influx in 1873 when 1300 immigrants came from Hungary, which rose to 4000 in 1880 and to nearly 15,000 in 1884.

I have finally located the baptism record for Andreas (Andy) Talian. This record shows that his birthdate is Apr 11, 1857. He was baptized on Apr 12, 1857 in Kracunovce, Svidnik District, Saris County, Presov Region, Slovakia and was a legitimate birth to his parents, Andreas Tallian and Anna Kubova. The religion is shown as Roman Catholic and the God parents are listed as Joannes Novak and Susanna Maslej. Further research then found the family in the 1869 Solvak Census under Saros and then Kukomezo. This census states that father, Andreas Talian is living in house 36, in household 1 (of which 2 are shown to be in this house), line 1, male, born 1816 in the village of Dukafalu (Svidnik District, Presov Region, Slovakia) and his occupation was as a (cseled) farm hand (apparently he did not own his own farm). His mother, Anna, on line 2, female, was born 1817 in the village of Zsalmany (Svidnik District, Presov Region, Slovakia), is listed as wife of Andreas (line 1) and her occupation is listed as "hazvites" (possibly spouse or marriage partner). Andreas is listed on line 3 as son of Andreas on line 1, male, born 1857 in Kukomezo, with no occupation given. All three are listed as r.k. (Roman Catholic). There are two others in the household, on line 4, Ilona Vezesek, female, born 1838 in Mata vagas, Greek Catholic, unmarried girl with occupation as servant. She has a son listed on line 5, Andreas, male, born 1869 in Kukomezo, also Greek Catholic, with no occupation listed.

The family of Andreas and Maria settled in the area south of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA. Andreas and Maria appear on later documents as Andy and Mary. Their second son, Thomas was born January 3, 1892 in Douglass, Elizabeth Twp., Allegheny Co., Pennsylvania. Their third son, Michael Robert was born July 28, 1894 also in Douglass as indicated on Michaelī's marriage document. The family was in Blythdale, Elizabeth Twp., Allegheny Co., Pennsylvania on March 18, 1898 when fourth son Joseph John was born. The family is found in Elizabeth Twp., Allegheny Co., Pennsylvania for the 1900 US census. Andy is listed as an alien renting a house with his occupation given as a coal miner. They had their fifth son, Charles born June 24, 1901 in Monessen, Rostraver Twp., Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania.

For the 1910 US Census the family is shown living in Monessen, Rostraver Twp., Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania. This census record shows that Andy had applied for the first papers to become a naturalized citizen of the United States. His occupation was given as a laborer in a lumber yard. They owned their home at 273 E. Schoonmaker, Monessen, Pennsylvania. Four brothers: Michael, Thomas, Joseph and Charles all relocated to the Detroit, Wayne Co., Michigan area between 1910 and 1917. WWI registrations are found for some dated about 1917. Mary died on April 14, 1919 in Monessen of organic heart disease. Roughly two weeks later, Andreas Talian, died on May 1, 1919 in Monessen of influenza and pneumonia. Andy Talian's death record indicates that his father's name was "Andy Talian" and mother's name was given as "unknown". "Andy Talian" and both of his parents have the birth location listed as "Czecko Slovak". The death record was signed by Andy's son, Michael R. Tallion. Andy and Mary are buried in Grandview Cemetery, Monessen, Rostraver Twp., Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania. Andy and Mary appear in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Greensburg, PA records as Andreas and Maria Tallian. The last known address of Andy and Mary was 273 E. Schoonmaker, Monessen, Pennsylvania. Andrew Steve Talian moved onto the Cleveland, Ohio area after the 1920 US Census. The sons of Andy and Mary chose various spellings throughout the years for their last name. Most often I have found the oldest son, Andrew, as Andy Talian; Thomas was known as Tom Tallion; Michael was known as Michael R. Tallion and later as Mike Tollon; Joseph was known as Joe Tallian and Charles was known as Charlie Tallion. Some of the family worked at times for the Page Steel & Wire Company that had a factory located in Monesson, Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania. A factory for this same company was also located in Detroit, Wayne Co., Michigan and could be a reason that some of the sons moved there. This factory manufactured woven fence and other wire products. The coat of arms, to the left, is an example of a Tallian Family coat of arms, but not sure if it is for the Talian/Tallian Family branch that I am descended from.

This is a picture of the Talian family about 1908.  Seated are Andrew and Mary (nee possibly Nagy) Talian.  The last name also has been found in many different variations, two as such being, Tallian and Tallion.  


From left to right...
Joseph Tallian
Andreas Talian (father)(aka Andy Talian)
Michael Tollon
Maria Talian (mother)(aka Mary Talian)
Charles Tallion

The following picture was taken probably about 1920....

Sons of Andreas & Maria Talian:
back row:
Andrew (Andy) Talian
Thomas (Tom) Tallion
Michael (Mike) Tollon
front row:
Charles (Charlie) Tallion
Joseph (Joe) Tallian

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Andreas and Mary are listed in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Greensburg, PA records as Andreas and Maria Talian.  This document is where it says they came from Saris.



Andrew Steve Talian and brother, Michael Tollon moved onto the Cleveland, Ohio area shortly after 1919.  Thomas, Joseph and Charles all settled in the Detroit, Michigan area shortly after 1919.  Andrew was known as Andy Talian, Thomas was known as Tom Tallion, Michael was known as Mike Tollon, Joseph was known as Joe Tallian and Charles was known as Charlie Tallion.

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Immigration record obtained from the Library of Michigan, Lansing, MI

Taln, Andreas
age 23, sex male
Port- Boston, MASS
Arrived- 3/1/1882
SS "HELVETIA"
Occupation - Farmer
Birthplace - Austria

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Passenger List obtained from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.  Line #18 lists Andreas Taln as an Alien passenger.

LIST OF PASSENGERS
This form of list only will be received
by the Alien C_____??___er.
REPORT AND LIST OF PASSENGERS taken on board the Steamer Helvetia of Antwerp
where of E. Keil is Master, burthen 1512 tons, from the Port of Antwerp for Boston.  
I, E. Keil Master of the S.S. Helvetia from Antwerp do solemnly swear that the
Report herewith made is conformity with the Laws of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts,
relating to Alien Passengers, is true and accurate, to the best of my knowledge and ____???
Sworn to at Boston this 1st day of March, 1882
E. Keil, Master
Before me C. A. Colcard, Justice of the Peace
83
Names
Age
Sex
Occupation
Place of Birth
Last Place of Residence CONDITION
1
Komensky James
46
M
farmer
Austria
2
Borniak Anton
32
M
farmer
Austria
3
Huniadi Mathias
33
M
farmer
Austria
4
Andreas Simon
37
M
farmer
Austria
5
Kollibi Karol
43
M
farmer
Austria
6
Imre Elias
40
M
farmer
Austria
7
Nowak Istvan
95
M
farmer
Austria
8
Lukatsch Landos
21
M
farmer
Austria
9
Lentsche Janos
25
M
farmer
Austria
10
Hofmann Janos
51
M
farmer
Austria
11
Hofmann Elisabeth
17
F
farmer
Austria
going west
12
Hofmann Talko
10
M
farmer
Austria
13
Hofmann Jurko
7
M
farmer
Austria
14
Kackrak Stefan
17
M
farmer
Austria
15
Merta Jurk
38
M
farmer
Austria
16
Justras Mich
14
M
farmer
Austria
17
Ezatska Andreas
28
M
farmer
Austria
18
Taln Andreas
23
M
farmer
Austria
19
Inst Heinrick
34
M
farmer
Germany
20
Inst Maria
28
F
farmer
Germany
going to New York
21
Inst Johanes
6
M
farmer
Germany
22
Inst Caroline
11 months
F
farmer
Germany
sore face caused by teething
23
Beck Jacob
25
M
farmer
Austria
24
Rohde Wilhelm
43
M
farmer
Germany
25
Rohde Carl
17
M
farmer
Germany
26
Grenger Magnus
28
M
farmer
Germany
27
Brandstetter Leopolo
38
M
farmer
Germany
28
Frank Christian
24
M
farmer
Germany
29
Kraft Georg
16
M
farmer
Germany
30
Arnold Karl
23
M
farmer
Germany
31
Arnold Martin
26
M
farmer
Germany
32
Jost Heinrick
30
M
farmer
Germany
33
Miller Freidrich
21
M
farmer
Germany
34
Miller Freidrich
33
M
farmer
Germany
35
Olsen L.F.
46
M
farmer
England
39 No
36
Shik Wm.
33
M
farmer
England
37
Kart Edward
21
M
farmer
Germany
Mar 1st/82
38
DeLankignow Jos
43
M
farmer
Belgium
39
Roth Joseph
54
M
farmer
Germany



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1910 PA Census - T-450 soundex INDEX
(Notice that Andreas was "Andy Talian" and Andy, Jr. was Andy Tolina, Jr.  Andy, Jr. also lists father, mother and brothers on his census record)

T-450
WESTMORELAND CO.
MONESSEN
285 8160 0137
TALIAN ANDY H W 50 HUN PENN
MARY W 48 HUN
MIKE S 15 PENN
JOSEPH S 12 PENN
CHARLEY S 08 PENN

T-450
WESTMORELAND CO.
288 0185 0547
TOLINA ANDY JR H W 30 HUNGARY PENN
MARY W 27 HUNGARY
ROBERT S 06 PENN
GEORGE S 04 PENN
ISENIA D 02 PENN
EDWARD S NR PENN
ANDY F 50 HUNGARY
MARY M 40 HUNGARY
THOMAS B 18 PENN
MIKE B 16 PENN
JOE B 12 PENN
CHARLES B 08 PENN

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1920 PA Census
State:  Pennsylvania
County:  Westmoreland
Township:  Rostraver (part of Wiretown & Lagrange Dist.)
Street:  East Monessen
Line number 7-14
Tallian, Andrew; head; m; w; 39
          , Mary; wife; f; w; 37
          , Robert; son; m; w; 16
          , George; son; m; w; 13
          , Irene; daughter; f; w; 12
          , Edward; son; m; w; 11
          , August; son; m; w; 8
          , Adam; son; m; w; 4


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Oct. 2, 1920
Record # 203437
Grooms name: Thomas Tallion
age: 28
race: White
Residence: Detroit, MI
Born: Douglas, PA
Occupation: Mechanic
Father's name: Andrew Tallion
Mother's maiden name: Mary Barron
Bride's name: Belle Wellman
age: 27
race: White
Residence: Detroit, MI
Born: Catlettsburg, KY
Occupation: Housekeeper
Father's name: Jas Wellman
Mother's maiden name: Mary Moore
Married: Oct. 2, 1920 in Detroit, MI by Geo E. Goodrich, Pastor Baptist Church
Witnessed by: Lucille Wellman, Detroit, MI & Jos. Tallian, Detroit, MI

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This is a translation of a Latin document for the marriage of Michael Talian.

Die (on day) 24.nov. 1915 matrimonium inierunt Michael Talian, ann. (age) 21, son of Andreas and Maria ex (of) Douglass, Pa. et Angelina Van Klemputte ex Charleroi, Belgium. Testes (witnesses) Andreas & Maria Talian Disp(ensatia) allowed

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